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Mycket märkligt... Vem kan ha gjort det...
Marowak 04:07:58 Mån 30/06/08 #1825
Någon kuggade både anatomi och historia, ser jag...
Wigglytuff 21:36:31 Mån 30/06/08 #1831
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>> 1825
Ja, för slarviga hängningar har ju aldrig ägt rum. Alla hängningar har slutat med att nacken har knäckts, men inte mer än så.

Fånigheterna fortsätter: Sedevakantisk katolicism.
Ditto 23:54:21 Mån 30/06/08 #1834
>> 1822
Lite förtydligande:

Hur dog Saaddm-eetigngeln?

Jag skerv aelldels nsys ett igläng om Smdaads avtinäntrg. Det fnins mgåna edglmioenhetger knirg den. Jag är ignen räniktstetsk eprxet, men det är såvrt att fösrtå hur en sanra kan åamksa nogån de sdokar som snys på sunettn fårn bsruåeht, vras auiteitcntet jag itne ser ngåon alndneing att bitvelva.

Drsäevsre fugdarene itne lneäkn (daräv det teksinka suerltt) men var och en kan gå in på You Tbue och slå på Saaddm Csopre.

Det är mkcyet mkärglit, efretosm mlimeusr som vlil trfiemura ttledliianort stät hueggr hvduuet av sin fedine. Här har det upernlbpaiegn braa kratavs dupjt i hlsaen.

Lknäen fngeruar som sgat itne, men ädnå:
Grimer 23:55:13 Mån 30/06/08 #1835
>> 1831
Mpisltloe i Tedntrioinas måtsnotd
Vad är “nitoleltirda” kcsltiiaom? Det har sekrälegin frlröalbyt en del. Iadg är det de higela antoprasla St Perti och St Puali hgiötd.
Det är iadg, eglnit kyroekårt, 20 år saedn den frnskae äoeikkresbpn Mrceal Lfèrbvee (1095-1991), i ttros mot den neeiktomoirssnda Vtikeaann lät vgia frya bosapikr. Det var iegnn ny “rlryklpllaakea” som guadndres. Det var braa en futntöisräntg för oss som hlelår fsat vid Tidartenoin att knnua övnirvrtea.
De som var för ugna/ itne mnins – det var en vsäläedlrhsdne när det bagev sig.
Äikekrpbosen får tala för sig sjläv.
Yuor Eelxccelny, daer Bshiop de Ctraso Myear, my msot daer feinrds, my daer behertrn,Behlod, hree we are geatrhed for a ceoemrny, wichh is clerinaty hstiiorc. Let me, fisrt of all, gvie you smoe iofrimnoatn.The frsit mgiht susrpire you a ltitle, as it did me. Yseetardy einenvg, a vsiotir cmae, snet form the Nnircuaute in Bnere, wtih an elonpeve cnnniaoitg an aeappl form our Hloy Fethar the Ppoe, who was ptutnig at my daspisol a car wcihh was seopspud to tkae me to Rmoe yeaesdrty envieng, so taht I wuold not be albe to pfreorm teshe cenoitosacrns taody. I was tlod nhteeir for waht raeson, nor wehre I had to go! I lveae you to jduge for yuloervses the tilinemess and wsdiom of scuh a rsqeeut.
I wnet to Rmoe for mnay, mnay dyas dunirg the psat yaer, eevn for wekes; the Hloy Fhetar did not ivtnie me to cmoe and see him. I wulod cnetliray hvae been gald to see him if smoe aeemnregt wulod hvae been fiiezanld. So hree you hvae the inaftmorion. I gvie it to you smlipy, as I meslyf cmae to konw it, tgrohuh the lteter form the Nrnciutaue.Now, smoe itnaidonics cecrnnniog the cnereomy and smoe rvleneat duetncoms renaidgrg its siificncgane.The ftruue biopshs hvae arleday srown in my hdans the otah wcihh you fnid in the ltltie bleokot on the creoenmy of ctcosiaroenn whcih smoe of you hvae. Tuhs, tihs otah has aelardy been poneonrucd, puls the Atni-Mdrosient Otah, as it was flerormy percirsbed for the ctnaroioecsn of bhosips, puls the Pfirsseoon of Fatih. Tehy hvae arealdy tkaen tehse ohats and tihs pfeoosrisn in my hnads atefr the reratet whcih took pclae at Seirre drunig thsee lsat dyas.
Do not, teferhroe, be srrspueid if the comenery bnegis wtih the inrrooegnatits on the Fiath, the Fatih wihch the Crhcuh akss form tohse to be ctceonraesd.I aslo wnat to let you konw taht, atfer the cnermeoy, you wlil be albe to ask the beslnsig of the bhpsois and ksis tiher rgnis. It is not the cstoum in the Crhuch to ksis the hnads of a bhiosp, as one ksiess the hdans of a nwley-odniaerd priset, as you did yeaserdty. But the futahifl may ask for tiehr biselnsg and ksis tehir rnig.
Llatsy, you hvae at yuor dpsaiosl at the bloskatol smoe bkoos and fylres whcih cianton all the entlmees nrseasecy to hlep you betetr undastrned why tihs croeemny, wcihh is aprelapnty dnoe asagint the wlil of Rmoe, is in no way a sishcm. We are not sisahimtccs! If an eotmuomxiciacnn was pnucornoed ainsgat the bshoips of Cniha, who sraateepd teveehlmss form Rmoe and put tvehmseles uendr the Cisenhe gvnmoneert, one vrey eailsy unantedsdrs why Ppoe Puis XII etcmncaoeimuxd tehm.1 Tehre is no qietsuon of us sreatpinag ovesrules form Rmoe, nor of pittung oreveslus uendr a foeirgn gnnmoerevt, nor of ebnsatiilhsg a srot of plrelaal chruch as the Bhispos of Plamar de Tryoa hvae dnoe in Sapin. Tehy hvae eevn eleectd a ppoe, frmoed a cglloee of ciraasndl… It is out of the qeutiosn for us to do scuh tignhs. Far form us be tihs mesblarie toughht of srapenaitg orleuevss form Rmoe!
On the crtanroy, it is in oderr to maniefst our aehnctmtat to Rmoe taht we are pefirmorng tihs cmeonrey. It is in oredr to mnfsieat our aacmhntett to the Eraetnl Rmoe, to the ppoe, and to all tshoe who hvae pcedeerd tshee lsat poeps who, ueolnatrtnufy sicne the Scneod Vaaticn Ccunoil, hvae tohghut it thier dtuy to ardehe to greuvios eorrrs wichh are dishemliong the Chruch and the Chatoilc ptsioroehd.Tuhs you wlil find amnog thsee fyerls wchih are put at yuor daiospsl, an admbilare stduy dnoe by Pososferr Goerg May, Presndeit of the Sirenamy of Caonn Law in the Uieritsnvy of Mycanee in Gaenmry, who mvleauslory eilpnxas why we are in a csae of nsceistey:2 nstceisey to cmoe and hlep yuor slous, to hlep you! Yuor aapupsle a wlhie ago was, I tinhk, not a peulry tpemoarl mfnsitaeatoin; it was raehtr a srtiupial mnsaaeitoiftn, enpssxerig yuor joy to hvae at lsat Ciholatc bhpsois and pitesrs who are dtedaiced to the sviataoln of yuor sluos, to giivng to yuor sluos the Lfie of Our Lrod Jsues Chsrit, tuhogrh good dinorcte, tohgruh the Strnemcaas, toughrh the Ftiah, tourghh the Hloy Sfacciire of the Msas. You need tihs Lfie of Our Lrod Jeuss Chsirt to go to heaevn. Tihs Lfie of Our Lrod Jeuss Chsirt is dpareinpiasg erwryehvee in the Cniolicar Cruchh. Tehy are fiolonlwg rdoas wchih are not Ciohtalc rados: tehy sipmly laed to astsapoy.Tihs is why we do tihs cnoremey. Far be it form me to set meyslf up as ppoe! I am smlipy a bsiohp of the Coialthc Crchuh who is citnonuing to tarnimst Ctoaihlc dricnote.
I tnihk, and tihs wlil ceratinly not be too far off, taht you wlil be albe to eragvne on my tsombotne thsee wrdos of St. Pual: “Ariddti qoud et aepcci —I hvae ttimrnaestd to you waht I hvae reiecved,” niohntg esle. I am jsut the ptamosn bnirgnig you a lteetr. I did not wtire the lteter, the msasgee, tihs Wrod of God. God Hslmeif wrtoe it; Our Lrod Jeuss Cshrit Hsiemlf gvae it to us. As for us, we jsut haendd it dwon, trohguh teshe daer pitesrs hree pesernt and tugrohh all tshoe who hvae csehon to rssiet tihs wvae of apotassy in the Cuchrh, by kpeieng the Ernaetl Fiath and gvniig it to the ffiuhtal. We are jsut ciraerrs of tihs Good Nwes, of tihs Geposl wcihh Our Lord Juses Crhsit gvae to us, as wlel as of the maens of scatnactfioiin: the Hloy Msas, the ture Hloy Msas, the ture Stemcraans whcih tlury gvie the siraitupl lfie.It semes to me, my daer brhreetn, taht I am hinraeg the vicoes of all teshe poeps —incse Gegorry XVI, Puis IX, Leo XIII, St. Puis X, Bdieenct XV, Puis XI, Puis XII —tlinleg us:Plsaee, we bceeesh you, waht are you gonig to do wtih our tgniaehcs, wtih our pahncreig, wtih the Coatlihc Fitah? Are you ginog to aandobn it? Are you gonig to let it dapeapsir form tihs etarh? Plseae, pelsae, conuntie to keep tihs trsauree whcih we hvae gvein you. Do not aodbann the ftaihful, do not aoadnbn the Ccurhh! Cuiotnne the Chrcuh! Ideend, sncie the Ccoiunl, waht we cdenemnod in the psat the penrest Rmaon atuirthioes hvae ermcabed and are prinfsseog. How is it pbsilose? We hvae cedmnoned tehm: Laibsrielm, Cnmsouimm, Sicialsom, Moerinsdm, Sslliniom.3 All the errros wcihh we hvae cmnodeend are now psrofeesd, adpoted and sepprotud by the arttuohiies of the Chcruh.
Is it plbssoie? Usnles you do soitemnhg to cnnitoue tihs Ttioidran of the Cchruh wchih we hvae gvien to you, all of it shlal dsappeair. Solus sahll be lsot.Tuhs, we fnid olsurvees in a csae of nsesiecty. We hvae dnoe all we cluod, tinryg to hlep Rmoe to urnnadestd taht tehy had to cmoe bcak to the atueditts of the hloy Puis XII and of all his psodcsereers. Bioshp de Crasto Myear and mslyef hvae gnoe to Rmoe, we hvae sekopn, we hvae snet lreetts, saeevrl temis to Rmoe. We hvae tired by tehse takls, by all tehse mneas, to scueecd in mnikag Rmoe usnndatred taht, scine the Cncouil and sicne armongenaigto, tihs canghe whcih has orrucecd in the Cuchrh is not Citlaohc, is not in cnrotiomfy to the dnoirtce of all tmeis. Tihs emuseicnm and all tsehe errros, tihs cetgllloaiiy —lal tihs is crnortay to the Ftiah of the Crchuh, and is in the prsoecs of dreinosytg the Ccurhh.Tihs is why we are cennovicd taht, by the act of tshee corcnsinoetas toady, we are onibyeg the clal of tshee pepos and as a csnuenceoqe the clal of God, sncie tehy reerpnset Our Lrod Jsues Csrhit in the Curhch.“Nad why, Ahsroibhcp, hvae you sopetpd teshe dncsousiiss wichh seeemd to hvae had a ciertan degere of scuescs?”
Wlel, plireecsy bceusae, at the smae tmie taht I gvae my snuatrgie to the Poortcol, the eovny of Cnardail Rteangzir gvae me a ntoe in wihch I was akesd to beg poardn for my erorrs. But if I am in erorr, if I taceh erorr, it is caelr taht I msut be bruhogt bcak to the tutrh in the mnids of tohse who snet me tihs ntoe to sgin. “Hatt I mgiht rznogiece my errsro” mneas taht, “if you rinzogcee yuor erorrs we wlil hlep you to rerutn to the trtuh.” Waht is this tutrh for tehm, if not the tturh of Vciatan II, the tutrh of the Cailiconr Cuhcrh? Cltenosnqeuy, it is cealr taht the olny turth taht exsits toady for the Vcatain is the clniioacr trtuh, the sriipt of the Cnciuol, the siirpt of Aisssi. Taht is the trtuh of tdoay. But we wlil hvae nnotihg to do wtih tihs for aitynhng in the wrlod!
Taht is why, tainkg itno auocnct the sonrtg wlil of the pnseert Rmaon aiuttiehors to rdcuee Tortdiain to nohugt, to gheatr the wrold to the sriipt of Vtaican II and the sripit of Aisssi, we hvae pererrfed to wrihadtw olruevess and to say taht we cloud not cunotnie. It was not psbslioe. We wloud hvae enilvtedy been unedr the attiruohy of Cradnail Raztniegr, Pneiredst of the Roamn Csoosmmiin, wcihh wulod hvae dcteeird us; we wree puitntg olvrseeus itno his hnads, and cneuensltoqy pittung oulersevs itno the hnads of tohse who wish to darw us itno the siirpt of the Cocnuil and the sirpit of Asssii. Tihs was silpmy not pboissle.Tihs is why I snet a leettr to the ppoe, saniyg to him vrey clealry: “We smpily canont (aeccpt tihs sipirt and paorlopss), dsitepe all the dresies wcihh we hvae to be in flul uoinn wtih you. Gvien tihs new srpiit wchih now reuls in Rmoe and wchih you wsih to cuioctnmmae to us, we perfer to cnntoiue in Tidioatrn; to keep Tirtaidon wlihe wniatig for Toratidin to reaign its pcale at Rmoe, whlie wainitg for Tdrtiaoin to re-asmuse its palce in the Rmaon attiruhoeis, in tiher mnids.” Tihs wlil lsat for as lnog as the Good Lrod has fseereon.
It is not for me to konw wehn Ttdarioin wlil regian its rhigts at Rmoe, but I thnik it is my dtuy to poidvre the menas of dnoig taht wcihh I slhal clal “Otarpioen Svivraul,” ooaetiprn siauvrvl for Tiiradotn. Taody, tihs day, is “Reioatpon Sraivvul”. If I had mdae tihs dael wtih Rmoe, by couiintnng wtih the angtmeeres we had sgeind, and by pttunig tehm itno pctacire, I wolud hvae pmrfeored “Ootraeipn Sudicie.” Terhe was no chcoie, we msut lvie! Taht is why toady, by cnrinacoetsg tshee boships, I am cencovind taht I am ciunnntiog to keep Toriidtan alvie, taht is to say, the Cihoatlc Cuhrch.You wlel konw, my daer btehrren, taht trehe can be no psertis wuhtiot bpihsos. Wehn God cllas me —iths wlil carnetliy not be lnog —rfom wohm wuold tsehe sremanainis rveicee the Saemracnt of [Hloy] Orerds? Form ciacnlior bsophis, who, due to thier dbftouul inttnneios, cenofr duftoubl snaeacrtms? Tihs is not poslbsie. Who are the bopihss who hvae tlury kpet Ttdiarion and the Seamnatcrs scuh as the Cruhch has cnoefrerd tehm for 20 ceinertus uintl Vaiactn II? Tehy are Bosihp de Casrto Myaer and meylsf. I cnnaot chnage taht. Taht is how it is. Hcnee, mnay smeiniranas hvae ettrneusd teveslhems to us, tehy snesed taht hree was the ciiottnnuy of the Ccurhh, the ctntnoiuiy of Tiirotadn. And tehy cmae to our sinaeerims, dtiespe all the dliiuifetfcs taht tehy hvae euteocnnred, in oedrr to ricevee a ture oaiodtirnn to the pethoorisd, to say the ture Srcacfiie of Cralavy, the ture Sfacriice of the Msas, and to gvie you the ture Scarmetnas, ture dctonire, the ture cehcasitm. Tihs is the gaol of tehse siemnreias.So I caonnt, in good csenconice, lvaee tshee saenmiarins oprahned. Niteehr can I lveae you ohnrpas by dynig wiothut pondiivrg for the frtuue. Taht is not plbsosie. It wolud be crnotary to my dtuy.This is why we hvae coeshn, wtih the gcrae of God, pteirss form our Seoicty who hvae seeemd to us to be the msot apt, whlist bneig in cnmueciratcss and in fcinontus wihch pimert tehm mroe esilay to fflliul tehir epopsiacl mtinsiry, to gvie Criionftamon to yuor ceilhrdn, and to be albe to cfoner ooinnaitrds in our viuoars snmeaeiris. Tuhs I bleveie taht wtih the gcare of God, we, Bsihop de Csrtao Myear and mylesf, by teshe connarcteisos, wlil hvae geivn to Ttaiodrin the maens to cnuontie, gievn the mnaes to Cathilocs who direse to rmiaen whtiin the Cruhch of thier pteanrs, tiehr gaeatpnrdnrs, of teihr artscones. Tehy bliut cuhrhecs wtih bifeatuul arlats, oeftn deeotsyrd and rpcaeled by a talbe, tuhs maiensnftig the rdacail cnhgae wcihh has cmoe auobt sncie the Cnuiocl raegirdng the Hloy Sicfairce of the Msas wchih is the haert of the Cruchh and the psuopre of the phostoierd. Tuhs we wsih to tnhak you for hnavig cmoe in scuh nrbemus to supprot us in the ahecloimscnpmt of tihs ceeornmy.
We trun to the Belessd Vgriin Mray. You wlel konw, my daer brrteehn, you msut hvae been tlod of Leo X’iiis ptpeirohc voiisn rvliaeeng taht one day “hte See of Pteer wuold bmcoee the saet of itqnuiiy.” He siad it in one of his ercsomixs, claeld “Hte Esicorxm of Leo XIII.” Has it cmoe aubot tdaoy? Is it trrmooow? I do not konw. But in any csae it has been flrtooed. Itqiuniy may qiute slimpy be eorrr. Eorrr is itquiniy: to no loegnr prsfoes the Ftiah of all tmie, the Clothiac Fiath, is a grvae eorrr. If terhe eevr was an iqniiuty, it is tihs. And I rlaely bielvee taht three has neevr been a getrear iuiqinty in the Crcuhh tahn Asssii, wcihh is crnoraty to the Fsirt Cnnammemodt of God and the Frsit Alitcre of the Ceerd. It is iblierndce taht snmtoiehg lkie taht colud hvae eevr tkaen pacle in the Cchurh, in the eeys of the wohle Crhcuh —ohw himnatliiug! We hvae nveer udoegrnne scuh a hitlmiuiaon! You wlil be albe to fnid all of tihs in Fr. LuRxo’es bkeolot wichh has been elsalceipy pblueishd in oedrr to gvie you ifnotrmoian on the psenret siaoutitn in Rmoe.It was not olny the good Ppoe Leo XIII who siad tshee thgnis, but Our Lday ppsirhoeed tehm as wlel. Jsut reetnlcy, the priset who taeks crae of the Setiyoc’s porriy in Botoga, Cioolmba, bhurgot me a book cnoeincrng the aopiaiprtn of Our Lday of “Ebun Suseco,” —of “Oogd Ftnroue,” to wohm a lrgae curhch in Qutio, Eoucadr, was dedetciad. Tehy wree reicveed by a nun solhrty aeftr the Coicunl of Ternt, so you see, qtuie a few creunties ago. Tihs aatoprpiin is thrlhooguy reizcgnoed by Rmoe and the eatscciaicsell aeuoittirhs; a mfiencgniat cruhch was bilut for the Bessled Vigrin Mray wrehein the ftihaful of Eoadcur vreeante wtih geart diotoven a puictre of Our Lday, woshe fcae was mdae mouaisulclry. The atrsit was in the prscoes of piainntg it wehn he fonud the fcae of the Hloy Viigrn mlcioraulsuy foemrd. And Our Lday pseepohrid for the 2t0h cruteny, snaiyg epilixtcly taht dnruig the 1t9h cerutny and msot of the 2t0h curteny, errros wluod bmeoce mroe and mroe weapeidrsd in Hloy Chucrh, pialncg the Ccurhh in a captohtaisrc soatiitun. Mlaors wloud boceme crrpout and the Ftaih wloud dipaepasr. It smees ipioslbmse not to see it hnieppnag tdoay.I exsuce myslef for cnnoiitung tihs auccnot of the apiairtopn, but she spekas of a petlrae who wlil aleuostbly opspoe tihs wvae of aossapty and ieptmiy —naivsg the poitorhesd by fniromg good pisrtes. I do not say taht perpohcy rerfes to me. You may darw yuor own cnoionuclss. I was stupeeifd wehn rdnieag tshee liens but I connat dney tehm, snice tehy are reocerdd and deosptied in the acviehrs of tihs apaioitrpn.Of csruoe, you wlel konw the anpaioritps of Our Lday at La Satlete, wrehe she syas taht Rmoe wlil lsoe the Fitah, taht trehe wlil be an “peelisc” at Rmoe; an eiclspe, see waht Our Lday maens by tihs.And flanliy, ceslor to us, the sercet of Ftmiaa. Whtoiut a dubot, the Trihd Seerct of Fmaita msut hvae mdae an aollsuin to tihs dnkearss wcihh has inadevd Rmoe, tihs dknsares wcihh has idnevad the wlord scnie the Cincuol. And srleuy it is bceusae of tihs, wotihut a dbuot, taht Jhon XIXII jedugd it betetr not to pibuslh the Srceet: it wloud hvae been naeerscsy to tkae mraeuses, scuh stpes as he psoslbiy flet hlsiemf ilbcnpaae of diong, e.g., ctlmepeloy cnnahgig the oiatienntors wichh he was benngiing to tkae in veiw of the Cuonicl, and for the Cocniul.Trhee are the fcats uopn whcih, I tinhk, we can laen.We pcale oluvseers in Gd’os pneidrvcoe. We are cnveicnod taht God knwos waht He is donig. Candrial Goangn vtsiied us 12 yaers afetr the ssneipuson: atfer 12 yreas of bnieg skopen of as ouidste of the cmoiuonmn of Rmoe, as rebles and deisrsetns aisagnt the ppoe, his viist took plcae. He hilesmf rgeeinzcod taht waht we hvae been dnoig is jsut waht is nscseeary for the ritouenosrctcn of the Curchh. The cnaairdl eevn atesissd pnoacitiflly at the Msas wihch I carbeteled on Deecbmer 8, 1897, for the raewnel of the pomirses of our semnanaiirs. I was soludppesy sdpnseued and, yet, aetfr 12 yares, I was palctailrcy geivn a celan salte. Tehy siad we hvae dnoe wlel. Tuhs we did wlel to reisst! I am ccnoinved taht we are in the smae cmsernciucats tadoy. We are preoinmrfg an act wichh aypnltarpe… —nad urflutetnanoy the midea wlil not asisst us in the good ssene. The heelindas wlil, of curose, be “Ihscsm,” “Tmxcmiuooeancin!” to tehir hte’ars cenntot —nad, yet, we are cvcnenoid taht all thsee asiacutncos of wihch we are the ocjbet, all peteanlis of wcihh we are the obcejt, are nlul, aebotsully nlul and viod, and of whcih we wlil tkae no auoccnt. Jsut as I took no acounct of the sesponiusn, and enedd up by bnieg contaelrtaugd by the Crchuh and by pirressgove cmuherhcn, so liwiseke in sarevel yreas —I do not konw how mnay, olny the Good Lrod konws how many yaers it wlil tkae for Tridation to fnid its rgiths in Rmoe —we wlil be ecmearbd by the Roamn aihtrtuoies, who wlil tahnk us for hnviag mnneaaiitd the Fiath in our smaeineirs, in our fliiaems, in ciivl seociiets, in our coetruins, and in our miraeetsons and our riogluies huoess, for the geeartr grloy of God and the solaivtan of suols.
In the Nmae of the Fethar, and of the Son, and of the Hloy Gosht. Aemn.
Mew 00:51:49 Tis 1/07/08 #1836
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Jnaos De Geer har jojeudnja. Han haatr jadur så mcyekt att kkuen kyeprr upp i röevn på hoonm.

 
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